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#1 Lee

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 12:58 AM

failed when Nemesis was produced.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 01:19 AM

Nemesis? Or Enterprise...... :P

I'm still holding out on this next movie though... :)

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 09:59 AM

The Next Generation is the shiznit for realz lawl.

As such, I think we can all agree that despite it being a bad movie, Nemesis>Enterprise.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 12:38 PM

There were too many flaws in Nemesis to count, tbh.

I happened to watch the TNG episode called "Rascals" this morning; the one where Picard, Ro, Guinan and Keiko experience a transporter accident that turns back the biological clock on their bodies.

In Nemesis we're told Picard had Shalafs (or however you spell it) syndrome which resulted in him having no hair and being hypersensitive to sound...yet in Rascals the young actor had plenty of hair and was hearing just fine.

Another example would be when Q sends Picard into his own past, at the Academy, and we see how Picard looked then - which was with a full head of hair and perfect hearing.

I could go on, but that wouldn't really prove much other than my stupidly large capacity to remember every TV program I watch.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 02:01 PM

To be fair, they did say that Shalaft’s syndrome was not something he was born with so rascals could have been before he developed it or after it was treated, but enough defending that film.

What annoyed me about it more than it should where things like tacking the ship in to the Bassen rift where they know they would lose communications while being chased by a genocidel maniac with a super ship, or how he built, in secret, a super ship with enough fire power to kill a warbird with salvo while being part of an oppressed slave race.
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 02:54 PM

Or the fact the Remans exist, I'm pretty sure at least once over the entire franchise it was said in an episode that the Romulans found the two Planets uninhabited.

Besides that you have the fact they were never mentioned before, despite the heavy Romulan plots towards the end of TNG and as well the Romulan involvement in DS9.

(Ok they can't have been mentioned because they hadn't been written yet, but if you look at it from the shows point of view, they shouldn't exist.)

To be fair, they did say that Shalaft’s syndrome was not something he was born with so rascals could have been before he developed it or after it was treated, but enough defending that film.


What about the picture on Picard's desk of himself (the actor whom played Shinykins) with no hair at the Academy. Despite his having hair in the episode in which Q sent him though his own past.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:05 PM

Where Remans not a slave race / sub spieces that Romulans keep quite? Remember in the film as they travel to romulus, they're reading up the Remans. If this was the case there would have been no need to include them in any of the previous stories (even if it was mentioned)

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 09:07 PM

I dont think the remans themselves are that much of an iconsistancy, all the federation really knew about the heart of romulan space is that it exists. However, I do think its pretty loltastic that somehow this slave race managed to create some sort of star trek super carrier without the romulans noticing. Thats the main issue I have with nemesis, you just cant explain the scimitar.

Other than that its an enjoyable film.

As for enterprise, it was a bad decision to go back in time, and I think its a bad decision to do a film with a 'young' kirk.

Star Trek needs something radical to bring it back onto the same plane as other modern sci fi like BSG, and I think that means moving forward in time, to a much more political unstable alpha quadrant, with a new ship and a new crew.

What I think they need to do though, is not focus the story solely around one ship. Lets have a set of characters and follow them throughout the same story, resulting in multiple re-occuring locations. Its something star trek hasn't done before and will have to do imo if its ever going to get another series.
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Posted 29 March 2008 - 10:04 PM

What I think they need to do though, is not focus the story solely around one ship. Lets have a set of characters and follow them throughout the same story, resulting in multiple re-occuring locations. Its something star trek hasn't done before and will have to do imo if its ever going to get another series.


Agreed, I like how the new Battlestar Galactica has what you could call "side plots."

The main story is the journey to Earth, however we see episodes set on board the civilian ships which involve a small number, or only one of the main cast members.

We also saw in Season 3, life on the Planet named "New Caprica" as well as how things were going for those that remained on the Galactica. Later in the Season we also followed both Galactica and the Cylons on Caprica itself and also aboard one of their vessels.

What Star Trek needs is a main cast, but also a larger number of re-occurring characters. TNG had Reg and the O'Brians for example, although a new series would require something a little more constant imo.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 12:43 AM

I totally agree, its just a shame that for the most part people would rather produce drivel that makes some money than gamble on creating an awesome series that fans will appreciate

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 02:14 AM

I think they should make a series that does exactly what TNG and TOS did: jump forward in time. The Enterprise - J (except with LCARS and not the horrible circle-with-two-lines-at-the-end design) exploring the Beta- and Delta-Quadrants, and actual diplomatic episodes instead of Enterprise's idea to shoot everything that appears (and to hire people who suck).

Can't they just bring the Great Bird back to his Genesis Planet?
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Posted 30 March 2008 - 02:45 AM

I would be interested in seeing something involving the Enterprise J and the events surrounding how the Temporal Cold War played out at their end of the Timeline.

I also wouldn't mind seeing something set aboard the Relativity or another ship of that Era. The fact that they have temporal transporters and the ability to scan the timeline could present many opportunities for interesting stories.

Then again, most people are unable to wrap their head around the time travel episodes becuase they can't keep up with whats going on.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 12:39 PM

you mean the writers?
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Posted 30 March 2008 - 03:02 PM

No, the viewers.

If the writers wouldn't have been able to write it if they didn't understand.

The majority of viewers were unable to understand or follow time travel episodes. Personally I cannot grasp that considering it's more or less no different than a regular episode just with different time periods or multiple time periods in one episode.

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 06:20 PM

It was just a little jokette about the inconsistancy of enterprise with the rest of trek >:)
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#16 Lee

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Posted 30 March 2008 - 07:14 PM

you mean it sucking
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